Irish Times

IRELAND should abandon neutrality and play its part in European Union security and defence and help design its future development, Fine Gael TD Billy Timmins told the Fine Gael Ardfheis.

“For many years Ireland has wrapped itself in the comfort blanket of neutrality. It became a byword for ambiguity in our international relations policy,” Mr Timmins said. Declaring that it is now “time to seriously revisit the issue”, he said. “Ireland has never, in any event, been neutral in internationally-recognised terms, since Irish attitudes were identified by opposition to Britain.

“Fine Gael believes that Ireland can no longer operate in this political twilight zone and we must engage as willing participants in a European common defence,” he said.

Dublin MEP Gay Mitchell, who has long favoured change, said Ireland would be able to set its own terms for membership and to be able to influence future changes in the years ahead.

During the debate, delegates accepted motions urging Ireland to remain members of the European Defence Agency, and called on the Government not to leave the organisation in an effort to harness support for a second Lisbon Treaty referendum. Future EU treaties should be put first to the Supreme Court prior to their enactment to “offer reassurance to voters” that the treaties are in line with constitutional rights.

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Should Ireland abandon neutrality? Kill in wars? Wars that can start over lies such as weapons of mass destruction? Do you trust the EU non-elected bureaucrats decisions to starts wars? Because the elected MEPs have no authority to decide anything in the EU. The elected only have the authority to make suggestions for amendments to proposals made by EU non-elected others and those suggestions can be ignored. If Ireland vote yes to the exact same Lisbon treaty we voted no to your answers to those questions will not matter, the Lisbon treaty takes the war decision out of the hands of the people by required referendum and puts it solely into the hands of our/their politicians to vote on, 21st century “democracy”. Did you know about the EU navy? They set sail for Somalia.

The existing EU member states have all signed up to Protocol 13 of the European Convention on Human Rights which outlaws the use of the death  penalty in all circumstances. The Lisbon Treaty makes the EU a state superior with legal personality and has the post-Lisbon EU signed up to Protocol 6 rather than Protocol 13. Protocol 6 allows the death penalty for acts committed (who decides what acts?) in time of war or threat of war. We are told we’ve been under the war of terrorism since 2001. When reading protocol 6 below ask your self what role is envisaged for a post-Lisbon EU and its collective forces in a time of war or imminent threat of war?

“b) Article 2 of the Protocol No 6 to the ECHR: A State may make provision in its law for the death penalty in respect of acts committed in time of war or of imminent threat of war; such a penalty shall be applied only in the instances laid down in the law and in accordance with its provisions…”  – ( is funded by the European Commission)

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